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		<title>By: James Shott</title>
		<link>http://news-political.com/2009/06/30/democrats-ram-largest-ever-tax-bill-through-house/comment-page-1/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>James Shott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;It’s likely that as the Solar PV (or any other renewable technology) demand increases, prices will come down and technology will improve.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

We need to have well developed technology before pushing the older, tried and true technologies off to the side. It makes no sense to force the new technologies into place until they are ready. 

Now, if we want to talk about incentivizing people to implement solar at home, and incentivize municipalities and states to implement other forms, that’s a different matter.

What we don’t want to do is to force -- through higher costs on conventional energy and obstacles to acquiring new supplies of oil and gas -- the implementation of immature energy technologies, hoping that at some point the technology will improve and become less expensive, as the administration and Congress are trying to do.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I continue to believe that the biggest enemies in this discussion are the utilities. As long as they control the delivery of the power and have influence over the state legislatures, we will always be at their mercy and they will ultimately decide how much of what technology advances.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps you are unaware that the leading developers of alternative energy technologies are the oil and gas companies. Of course, they will sensibly resist shutting down the existing technologies sooner than necessary because of the tremendous investment that has been made in it, but they would be foolish to ignore new technologies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;It’s likely that as the Solar PV (or any other renewable technology) demand increases, prices will come down and technology will improve.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>We need to have well developed technology before pushing the older, tried and true technologies off to the side. It makes no sense to force the new technologies into place until they are ready. </p>
<p>Now, if we want to talk about incentivizing people to implement solar at home, and incentivize municipalities and states to implement other forms, that’s a different matter.</p>
<p>What we don’t want to do is to force &#8212; through higher costs on conventional energy and obstacles to acquiring new supplies of oil and gas &#8212; the implementation of immature energy technologies, hoping that at some point the technology will improve and become less expensive, as the administration and Congress are trying to do.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I continue to believe that the biggest enemies in this discussion are the utilities. As long as they control the delivery of the power and have influence over the state legislatures, we will always be at their mercy and they will ultimately decide how much of what technology advances.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Perhaps you are unaware that the leading developers of alternative energy technologies are the oil and gas companies. Of course, they will sensibly resist shutting down the existing technologies sooner than necessary because of the tremendous investment that has been made in it, but they would be foolish to ignore new technologies</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Britt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We may have to &quot;agree to disagree&quot; on your interpretation of the data as well as the need for &quot;the sun to shine all of the time.&quot;  While I agree that nuclear can be a viable alternative, and perhaps we could follow Canada&#039;s lead in increasing our portfolio, I suggest you do some more research on the viability of Solar PV and look at what countries like Germany (latitude of 51 degrees...further north than Michigan and roughly the same number of Peak Sun Hours) is doing.  Canada (Ontario in particular) has also released a new initiative to spur growth.  It may not power entire cities tomorrow, but consider this:  if we do nothing but sit and talk about it, the situation will not improve.  It&#039;s likely that as the Solar PV (or any other renewable technology) demand increases, prices will come down and technology will improve...that is, as long as the patterns of history continue to repeat themselves.  I continue to believe that the biggest enemies in this discussion are the utilities.  As long as they control the delivery of the power and have influence over the state legislatures, we will always be at their mercy and they will ultimately decide how much of what technology advances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may have to &#8220;agree to disagree&#8221; on your interpretation of the data as well as the need for &#8220;the sun to shine all of the time.&#8221;  While I agree that nuclear can be a viable alternative, and perhaps we could follow Canada&#8217;s lead in increasing our portfolio, I suggest you do some more research on the viability of Solar PV and look at what countries like Germany (latitude of 51 degrees&#8230;further north than Michigan and roughly the same number of Peak Sun Hours) is doing.  Canada (Ontario in particular) has also released a new initiative to spur growth.  It may not power entire cities tomorrow, but consider this:  if we do nothing but sit and talk about it, the situation will not improve.  It&#8217;s likely that as the Solar PV (or any other renewable technology) demand increases, prices will come down and technology will improve&#8230;that is, as long as the patterns of history continue to repeat themselves.  I continue to believe that the biggest enemies in this discussion are the utilities.  As long as they control the delivery of the power and have influence over the state legislatures, we will always be at their mercy and they will ultimately decide how much of what technology advances.</p>
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		<title>By: NEPAConservative</title>
		<link>http://news-political.com/2009/06/30/democrats-ram-largest-ever-tax-bill-through-house/comment-page-1/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>NEPAConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim we don&#039;t have enough land for the amount of solar cells and wind turnbines needed to power a small city.  None of these technologies can give us what nuclear can.

Ausra&#039;s Las Vegas solar thermal plant , a 130,000-square-foot facility, will only provide 700,000 megawatts per year while a nuclear power plant can produce Giga Watts per year in 1/3 of the space needed.  It&#039;s not even worth an investment if you don&#039;t live somewhere where the sun is shining almost... like..um... all of the time.  They built wind turbines right by my house, lots of them. Covered the mountain top.  Maybe you&#039;d like to explain why my energy bills have gone up?  I look up and some of them aren&#039;t even turning, what happens on the days that have no wind, do we run on &quot;squirrel in the cage&quot; power?

I see potential in these technologies but after 20+ years of development, it&#039;s small potential.  Nuclear IS our best option.  

So why not do the smart thing. Grab more domestic oil while we build more nuclear power plants.

In the meantime the DimWits are passing out CFL light bulbs and tying up every permit for a nuclear power plant out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim we don&#8217;t have enough land for the amount of solar cells and wind turnbines needed to power a small city.  None of these technologies can give us what nuclear can.</p>
<p>Ausra&#8217;s Las Vegas solar thermal plant , a 130,000-square-foot facility, will only provide 700,000 megawatts per year while a nuclear power plant can produce Giga Watts per year in 1/3 of the space needed.  It&#8217;s not even worth an investment if you don&#8217;t live somewhere where the sun is shining almost&#8230; like..um&#8230; all of the time.  They built wind turbines right by my house, lots of them. Covered the mountain top.  Maybe you&#8217;d like to explain why my energy bills have gone up?  I look up and some of them aren&#8217;t even turning, what happens on the days that have no wind, do we run on &#8220;squirrel in the cage&#8221; power?</p>
<p>I see potential in these technologies but after 20+ years of development, it&#8217;s small potential.  Nuclear IS our best option.  </p>
<p>So why not do the smart thing. Grab more domestic oil while we build more nuclear power plants.</p>
<p>In the meantime the DimWits are passing out CFL light bulbs and tying up every permit for a nuclear power plant out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Britt</title>
		<link>http://news-political.com/2009/06/30/democrats-ram-largest-ever-tax-bill-through-house/comment-page-1/#comment-552</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with the substance of your argument, that is, that the cap-and-trade program will result in an energy tax on consumers; I totally disagree that renewable energy sources are not well enough developed to replace a major portion of fossil fuel-generated energy.  If you look to Europe (Germany and Spain in particular), they committed some time ago to renewable energy development and installation.  In fact, a majority of the products produced in the US in the past few years (solar modules, inverters, etc.) have gone overseas to other countries who have taken a more progressive approach to their energy problems.

Solar and Wind technology is not &quot;rocket science.&quot;  It is simple, proven technology that works and can be implemented much more quickly (and economically) than building new fossil-fuel plants, or nuclear plants.  I believe that the real obstacle is the utility companies, which wield much influence at the state government level.  Renewable energy sources, particularly if installed at the consumer level, amount to a deregulated energy source and a loss of revenue for the utilities.  Hence, the utilities and local governments have no real incentive to advocate for new technology.  As a contractor who is trying to help reinvent ourselves and create or save jobs via the renewable energy market , it&#039;s troubling that there is so much misinformation among the general public and no real government or utility support.

If we can send men to space to live for months on end, we can figure out a way to make renewable energy a viable priority without taxing our country to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with the substance of your argument, that is, that the cap-and-trade program will result in an energy tax on consumers; I totally disagree that renewable energy sources are not well enough developed to replace a major portion of fossil fuel-generated energy.  If you look to Europe (Germany and Spain in particular), they committed some time ago to renewable energy development and installation.  In fact, a majority of the products produced in the US in the past few years (solar modules, inverters, etc.) have gone overseas to other countries who have taken a more progressive approach to their energy problems.</p>
<p>Solar and Wind technology is not &#8220;rocket science.&#8221;  It is simple, proven technology that works and can be implemented much more quickly (and economically) than building new fossil-fuel plants, or nuclear plants.  I believe that the real obstacle is the utility companies, which wield much influence at the state government level.  Renewable energy sources, particularly if installed at the consumer level, amount to a deregulated energy source and a loss of revenue for the utilities.  Hence, the utilities and local governments have no real incentive to advocate for new technology.  As a contractor who is trying to help reinvent ourselves and create or save jobs via the renewable energy market , it&#8217;s troubling that there is so much misinformation among the general public and no real government or utility support.</p>
<p>If we can send men to space to live for months on end, we can figure out a way to make renewable energy a viable priority without taxing our country to death.</p>
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		<title>By: NEPAConservative</title>
		<link>http://news-political.com/2009/06/30/democrats-ram-largest-ever-tax-bill-through-house/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>NEPAConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR THOSE LIBERALS THAT DON&#039;T KNOW HOW TO READ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCMieWnY9uo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR THOSE LIBERALS THAT DON&#8217;T KNOW HOW TO READ<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCMieWnY9uo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCMieWnY9uo</a></p>
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		<title>By: NEPAConservative</title>
		<link>http://news-political.com/2009/06/30/democrats-ram-largest-ever-tax-bill-through-house/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>NEPAConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I pledge that under my plan, no one making less than $250,000 a year will see any type of tax increase,&quot; &quot;Not income tax, not capital gains taxes, not any kind of tax.&quot;  - BARACK OBAMA

LIAR!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I pledge that under my plan, no one making less than $250,000 a year will see any type of tax increase,&#8221; &#8220;Not income tax, not capital gains taxes, not any kind of tax.&#8221;  &#8211; BARACK OBAMA</p>
<p>LIAR!!!</p>
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		<title>By: James Shott</title>
		<link>http://news-political.com/2009/06/30/democrats-ram-largest-ever-tax-bill-through-house/comment-page-1/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>James Shott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee-hee!

I don&#039;t believe ol&#039; Nancy, or many of her cohorts, understand that &quot;making&quot; jobs, whether they are so-called &quot;green jobs&quot; or make-work jobs like the CCC, is false job creation, and won&#039;t last without real economic support.

When ideology/idiology trumps common sense, we get what we&#039;ve got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee-hee!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe ol&#8217; Nancy, or many of her cohorts, understand that &#8220;making&#8221; jobs, whether they are so-called &#8220;green jobs&#8221; or make-work jobs like the CCC, is false job creation, and won&#8217;t last without real economic support.</p>
<p>When ideology/idiology trumps common sense, we get what we&#8217;ve got.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Henderson</title>
		<link>http://news-political.com/2009/06/30/democrats-ram-largest-ever-tax-bill-through-house/comment-page-1/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must confess it - - for once, I find myself in agreement with Nancy Pelosi, who said this bill means &quot;Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!&quot; She&#039;s right and I have to give her credit.

Unfortunately, those jobs are going to be in &quot;China! India! Pakistan! Korea!&quot; :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must confess it &#8211; - for once, I find myself in agreement with Nancy Pelosi, who said this bill means &#8220;Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!&#8221; She&#8217;s right and I have to give her credit.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, those jobs are going to be in &#8220;China! India! Pakistan! Korea!&#8221; <img src='http://news-political.com/wp-content/plugins/smilies-themer/Julianus/20x20-hell_boy.png' alt=':p' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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